Comparison between Garmin GPSMAP 60CSx and 62s

I bought a new Garmin GPSMAP 62s (currently running firmware 2.40). I already own a Garmin GPSMAP 60CSx so I will use that device as a reference for my evaluation of the 62s. I hereby post my findings with the device and silently hope that they will help improve the 62-serie so it can become the generally acknowledged follow-up to the 60-series.

Why I choose the 62s (and not the 62 or 62st)
There are three types of 62-serie devices: the 62, 62s and 62st. I chose the 62s instead of the 62 because I want a barometric altitude meter and a 3-axis tilt-compensated compass which the 62 lacks. Furthermore I choose the 62s above the 62st because the 62st (European model) has a ‘built-in’ topographic map of Western Europe scale 1:100.000, where I strongly prefer the 1:50.000 scaled maps. Besides I like to have the in-device memory of 1,7 GB at my own disposal (which is only 400MB for the 62st with Western Europe map).

Tracks archive
The 62-serie devices allows you to keep your tracks on the device, and load them back when you want. I like this feature because it would allow me to put all my tracks on the device so I can always get them back and-rewalk a route, or at least that’s what I would think. So when I copied all my walking tracks (more then 100 files) to the device’ \Garmin\GPX\Archive folder, it froze indefinitely (on/off button not working any more).
I almost submitted my device for RMA, but luckily I found a working solution on this forum (Dutch).

Since that moment I placed my tracks on the external SD-card (in the \Garmin\GPX\Archive folder), so if it failed loading, I could easily remove the card and continue to use the GPS. This idea worked, but the result was not very satisfying. Because, when looking at the tracks menu, it showed me all the tracks from all the GPX files I put on the card, but all my track names (formatted as “YYYYMMDD”) and the GPX files on the filesystem named likewise, were in a random order. Besides, the folder structure I use (a folder for each type of activity and a subfolder for each year) was not honored and browsing through the long list of tracks is very slow (page up/down would have been nice). And on top of that, when I archive a file located on the external SD-card, it is automatically moved to the internal memory? Why Garmin?

Switch to USB-transfer mode
If your 62-device won’t boot any more just like mine did, you can enter usb-mass-storage-device-mode by pressing the “arrow down”-key before connection the usb-cable (which is connected to a running computer). After holding the button for approximately 30-seconds the internal memory becomes visible as drive and you can modify it again.

BirdsEye™ satellite imagery
After registering my device and entering my device’ serial number (and not the unit ID, common mistake), I was able to subscribe for a one-year subscription to BirdsEye for only € 25. After payment by creditcard Garmin Basecamp immediately allowed me to download imagery.
I found out the image quality (I selected high) was indeed very high, but downloading the imagery was very slow. I understand the servers with the imagery are located in the US, and I’m in the Netherlands, but still its too slow for a service you have to pay money for!

Another  problem is the proces you need to go through to download large sums of imagery that are nicely connected to each other. What I want is to be able to specify a block of any size, which is then downloaded with high speed. After downloading I would like to select in one action what part of the image I want to send to the GPS. This is not possible. When selecting multiple blocks for download, I could not easily align them to each other.

Also, Garmin BaseCamp forces you to use their wizard which starts of by checking your subscription which of course can by just as well done once when the application is started. Besides, a block of imagery you can select to download is limited to only 75 MB per block!
Why not make it more friendly Garmin?

Comparing tracks
Another interesting comparison experiment would be turning the devices on at them same time, move them around together and compare the resulting GPX-files. I have to admin it wasn’t the most professional comparison, but it does show some unexpected differences. I used Garmin’s MapSource to calculate the properties. I did no calibration when I turned the devices on.

60CSx 62s
Firmware version 4.00 2.40
GPX tracklog-file tracklog_60csx.gpx tracklog_62s.gpx
GPX filesize (bytes) 173.141 256.228
Record method Auto Auto
Record interval Most Often Most Often
Auto calibration On On
Barometer mode Variable Elevation Variable Elevation
Recorded trackpoints 1085 1591
Distance 8.1 Km 7.6 Km
Start time 2010-09-04 15:57:32 2010-09-04 15:57:27
Moving time 4:00:59 4:00:54
Avg speed (km/h) 2 2
Area (sq km) 1.7 1.7
Height graph

What really makes me wonder what went wrong here is the difference in measured distance and the spikes en holes in the height graph for the 62s. I really can’t explain it, expect for the fact that the 62s is giving me results that scare me. Did I cause this with a setting? Or is it already fixed with 2.44 beta that says it “Fixed issues with inconsistent altimeter readings”? I just hope this is buggy firmware and not some buggy hardware, so it can be fixed by Garmin.

Heart rate monitor and cadence sensor
According to its manual the Garmin 62s is capable of connecting to a heart rate monitor and cadence sensor. I recently bought the Speed/Cadence Bike Sensor and a Heart Rate Monitor.

What I want with these sensors is simple: log my heart rate and cadence together with time, location and elevation data, so I can keep track of my progress with cycling. Sadly, Garmin doesn’t make it that simple. Garmin has its Garmin Training Center which is well suited for analysing all the data captured with my 62s. Getting the data there is not very easy.

In short, these are my findings:

  • Mounting the cadence sensor to my bike was quite easy.
  • Pairing the heart rate monitor and the cadence sensor with the 62s was also very easy.
  • The first 10 minutes after turning my 62s on, my heart rate was around 254 bpm. After 10 minutes the heart rate became stable and seemed to work quite flawlesly for the rest of the logging period, except for two spikes at 42 and 45 minutes that were probably too high:
  • Garmin Training Center running on Windows 7 64-bit cannot read from my 62s directly, giving me this error:
  • Garmin Connect fails at reading data directly from the 62s using Google Chrome.
  • The only way I could get a GPX file containing the heartrate and cadence sensor values was by manually copying the Current.gpx file from the device.
    Garmin MapSource and Garmin Basecamp do not read the heart rate and cadence values from the 62s. I was however able to upload the Current.gpx file manually to Garmin Connect and analyse it.

Pros compared to GPSMAP 60 CSx:

  • Quicker fix due to the ‘HotFix® satellite prediction’ (though not thoroughly tested)
  • Maps look better and render a lot faster.
  • Map groups can now be individually enabled or disabled.
  • BirdsEye™ Satellite imagery can now be loaded onto the device
  • Support for heart rate and cadance sensors (buy as seperate accessories, already ordered them).
  • The ‘Trip computer’ page has a dashboard view, that can include for example an elevation graph.
  • The elevation plot of each (archived) track can now be viewed on the device itself.
  • The external MicroSD card can be more then 2GB (up to 16GB has been tested), however I have not verified that myself. There are forum posts about using these memory cards (Dutch). It seems that bigger sized MicroSD (SDHC?) cards  did already function in the 60CSx, but Garmin has never officially confirmed that and I did not verify it.

Cons:

  • The device squeaks as can be seen in this YouTube video. They say the device is robust, but it doesn’t feel that way.
  • Special mount needed for bicyle (different from 60-series).
  • A different clipping system used for mounting the device onto something or someone.
  • When switching page, there is a 1-second delay before the selected page is opened. You can force the opening of a page by pressing ‘enter’, but that implies 2 actions. Not funny when you want to quickly switch pages as I prefer.
  • Browsing tracks is not very flexible and friendly. Scrolling through long pages with only tracknames (why not the GPX filenames?) without the possibility to quickly page through the tracklists. Furthermore no directory-based track-browsing.
  • No datafield for temperature. The device has a temperate sensor (which can be read when in a special diagnostic mode), but you are not allowed to add it to the ‘Trip computer’.
  • The sunset/sunrise time at DST changing dates bug is still present.
  • Cannot connect in the ‘Garmin Training Center’ application because the 62st ‘does not have the necessary capabilities’. Why is that? The device supports a cadence and heart rate sensor!
  • There are no more games on the device! I miss IRL snake! :cry:
  • The device is prone to crashing when you add too much files to the GPX folder.
  • Custom maps created as kmz files saved to an external SD-card as explained here does not seem to work.
  • BirdsEye™ Satellite imagery downloading is slow (measured with high speed broadband ISP-connection from the Netherlands) and the proces for selecting and downloading imagery with Garmin BaseCamp can definitely be improved.
  • The resulting GPX files read with Garmin’ MapSource have some scary differences that I cannot yet explain. 62s has buggy firmware?
  • I find it to be a bug that I cannot seem to reset my odometer (distance meter) to zero using the tripmeter’ ‘reset’-menu.
  • Readings from the heart rate monitor are always wrong (too high) the first 5-10 minutes after connecting to the 62s.
  • Getting the heart rate and cadence sensor readings from the device is possible, but not too friendly.

Conclusion
Looking at the long list of cons you might think I feel sorry for buying the device. Though I find some issues need to be addressed to increase my user experience with the 62s, I am still happy with the device. Nevertheless, most issues I have with the device are hopefully within the software and therefore the current firmware needs improvements before the 62-serie devices can be seen as a good replacement to the very successful 60-series.

Update:

  • Thanks to a comment from ’60CSx con 62s’ I omitted an error in the article claiming the 62s has better GPS reception then the 60Csx. What I wanted to say is that it can get a quicker fix.
  • According to user comments from ’60CSx con 62s’ “16GB Cards are also possible on the 60CSx (V4.00)“.
  • Added my experience with BirdsEye™ imagery.
  • Added a GPX-comparison to the article.
  • Added my experience with the heart rate monitor and cadence sensor.

52 thoughts on “Comparison between Garmin GPSMAP 60CSx and 62s

  1. - GPS reception is not really better than 60CSx
    - 16GB Cards are also possible on the 60CSx (V4.00)

  2. The track logging on the 62s is a disaster…probably the most important feature of my 60CSx was that I could switch it on in the morning, leave it running all day with the maximum track logging detail (10m intervals between points), switch off in the evening, and at the end of a trip I would have a complete daily log of my movements without having to lift a finger even when individual daily logs went as high as 30 000 points. Now with the 62s…. 1) on my unit the auto logging does not work, so if I exceed 10 000 points , only the last 9 999 are recorded, and earlier points are dropped off the track – no auto archive file is created (as claimed by Garmin) to store the points as they are dropped from the active track, 2) even if it did work as claimed, I would end up with more than one track per day if I exceed 10 000 points, and the last 10 000 will only be saved/archived if I remember to do this manually at the end of the day. So there is a major chance of data loss, plus I would need to splice archived tracks together to get a single daily log. I cannoit comprehend why Garmin ha=ve seen fit to break a perfect, simple, reliable logging system and replace it with something so complex, cumbersome and unreliable. As for the naming of the archived and saved tracks…the mind boggles at how someone could come up with such a cumbersome, useless (they cannot be sorted chronologically) and inconsistent (archived include the time of the first point and saved tracks the time of the last point in the file name!) system…

  3. Ever since my unit arrived a week ago I have been urging Garmin virtualy on a daily basis to please return to the simple & sensible track archiving we had on the 60CSx, but it sounds as though this is only likely to happen if enough people complain…so please, everyone who has loved the way the 60CSx archived tracks daily, and hates the cumbersome ancd complex new saving/archiving on the 62 series – let Garmin know!

  4. Hi,
    I have 60CSx and 62s.
    Until now the 60CSx works better than the 62s and I hope, that GARMIN will fix some bugs.
    I use the GARMIN devices for preparing my guided bicyle trips.
    My problems are all about the track management:
    for the track I can select different colours, but this colour will not displyed on the map, when I choose this track

    I miss the notice (text and sound) when the track will turn right or left

    now I have a big problem. The gpx-Files in the Archive I cannot read with BASEMAP or MAPSOURCE. I tkink that the cause of this problem is, that I see only one big line whithout any CR LF or LF at the end of each XML-Statement.

    for this problems I created tickets for the GARMIN-Support. I hope, that they fix this as soon as possible.

    I’m now on Kreta (Greece) and I use City Navigator NT 2011 V2. The quality of this map (small ways or streets) do not meet the reality. So it is very difficult to plan trips on tis nice island.

  5. Hi Jeroen,

    Thanks for that top-flight comparison, man!
    I was wondering if you were going to make me feel jealous… Spend the big bucks… And then have to rewrite my guide of 60CSX tricks!… LOL
    But it sounds like the improvements are not huge. Faster sat fix sounds good, though, the 60CSX tends to have a sleepy head.
    More worrisome about the 62S is what you say about ruggedness… Does it feel more toy-like than the 60CSX?

    Thanks again for sharing,
    Smiles

    Andy

    • Hi Andy,

      YW!
      Nice list of 60CSX tricks btw.

      The 62S does feel a bit toy-like, but that’s not what’s bothering me most about the device. Other issues like a failing heart-rate sensor registration (latest firmware didn’t fix that), different track logging system (also not fixed) and the failing accuracy in altitude and odometer are for me the must-fixes before I stop bringing the 60CSx along with the 62S all the time.

      Cheers,
      Jeroen

      • Greetings Jeroen,

        Tuning in to your site every now and then to see how the 62s situation evolves.

        Wishing you a fun week,

        Andy

  6. On 60csx, i currently use ‘no recalculation’ using my bike to follow the original itineraire (not modified by recalculation).
    How to select this facilitie on my 60st ?
    Best regard
    jack

  7. Thanks very much for this review. I’m currently looking to upgrade from my venerable Garmin III+ (yes, I’m long overdue!) and am so confused. After having the 62S for a while, would you recommend it over the 60CSX at this point or is the jury still out? I like the idea of a proven device at a reasonable price (60CSX) but like the idea of a newer device with some improved features that I assume Garmin will continue to support for a few years (62S). The 60CSX has been discontinued I believe so I don’t have much confidence there will be future firmware upgrades for it. Thanks much!

  8. I bought my 60csx downloaded the topo back in 2007 it’s bullet proof I hunt aprox. 65 days a year in thick cover and even in major down pour it’s never let me down so my wife bought me the 62s & the chip to free up memory and thought that newest & greatest would be just what I needed to my amaze it’s not all what I expected the tracking just plain sucks and friendly user well that something else I’m returning it for another 60csx It would be nice if you could save & name a track and erase others and not everything maybe I’m missing something !

  9. Has anybody paid any attention to inaccuracy of the 62s’s display? I just got a brand new GPSmap 62s (s/w v. 2.60 which I updated to 2.92) and my first impression is not very good. Perhaps it is due to 65 k colors that cause some fonts to be very inaccurate, for ex. if you look at the letter “e” on most menus there are some grey pixels around the black ones. Also the smallest streets on City Navigator NT Europe 2011.32 are multicolored (black/grey) and the labels of the street names are not “sharp”. This feature makes the display somehow fuzzy and absolutely worse that on 60Cx or Oregon 200.

  10. I have a new 62st and have not been able to figure out how to manage geocashes. I can insert them into the devise but when it comes to deleting them, there seems to be no way to do so. Am I missing something or is the devise a one way geocash machine that will eventually become unusable.

  11. I’m glad I’m not the only one finding it difficult to get used to the new 62S. The menus are just not very user friendly like the old 60CSx. I use my gps on my atv plugged into the power port. Quite often it comes loose and loses external power, but I have set it to remain on if it loses external power and use battery power instead. My new 62S automatically shuts down after 30 seconds if I don’t push the button to keep it on. I also liked that I could personalize the start up screen on my 60CSx to show my name and other personal information. I bought an Oregon about 2 years ago and sent it back because I didn’t like it as well as my 60CSx. I’m still on the fence about this 62s. The screen is much better though!

  12. I purchased a 60CSx back in 2008 with the Garmin UK / Europe City Navigator Street maps on the micro SD card.

    It had terrible problems freezing or locking up and the only way to get it going again was to remove the batteries and switch back on. This could happen once an hour whilst driving or continuously for 4 or 5 times in a row.

    I updated everything via Garmin website and it still happened whether it was navigating me somewhere or not, just having it turned on doing nothing made it freeze.

    So has this now been fixed, will I get the same problems if I buy a new 60CSx or with the 62S that I am looking at. I kind of lost my faith in Garmin because I had to sell it but I want another one if these issues have been cured. Anybody else experience similar?

  13. I have the GPS MAP60CSX and i use if for mapping and measuring on my job. Accuracy is the most important feature and i’m curious how the 62ST measures up against the 60 CSX. It is critical that i’m as accurate as possible and so far the 60 csx has come through in fine style. Is that as good as it gets? My company is willing to purchase a better unit regardless of price if it will be more accurate. Any recomendations?

  14. My old GPSMap 60CSx finally became unusable, partly because the buttons all wore off, but finally because the mini-USB socket gave up. I use the GPS all the time for geotagging photos by plugging it into a Canon EOS camera (requiring Canon’s Wireless File Transmitter plug-in) — works like a dream except for the hanging cable which constantly snags and caused the socket problem. Also the USB cable sticks into my body when using the belt clip.

    The replacement GPSMap 62st does the job OK. However, it cannot be setup to “External Power Lost: Stay on” as it can in the 60CSx. So when the camera auto-offs, the unit says “External Power Lost, Turning off in 30, Continue on battery power? Turn off or Stay on”. Default is turn off. If you miss that countdown (and you will), everything goes, tracking and all. And next photo you take is not geotagged. I can find no setup to use or stay on battery power. QUESTION: is there a work-around?

    Disappointed, I had my 60SCx refurbished by Garmin, brilliant, back in a couple of days as new! Then solved the USB problem with a down-angled “Ex-Pro Mini B Angled 90 Degree connection cable, lead. USB 2.0 1.8m”, perfect for 60CSx, won’t fit 62st though.

    Final comment, unless you need any of the new features of the 62st, then the 60CSx is far better, menus and screens much easier to use. If I were buying either for the same money now, I’d go for the 60SCx.

    • The only issue that has really been resolved (that I know of) is the one with the incorrect altimeter readings. The current latest software version for the 62S is 2.80

  15. Ik probeerde weer net nu (10 mei 2011), en het zegt: “Uw Garmin-apparaat heeft de nieuwste software”, en “Geen updates gevonden voor uw apparaat “.

  16. I have been using the 60Csx forever. My main use now is on my bike. I also use the iPhone (Cyclemeter app) to record the bike ride and post to various sites. I have checked the accuracy of the 60Csx over a measured 10 and 22 mile course and it is dead on. The iPhone, however, is usually shy by a mile at longer distances. I suspect that is because you cannot adjust the recording interval. I currently have the 60 Csx Recording Method set to Distance, 0.06miles. I am still not sure what the best setting for biking is and if anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate that . I do at times use it for walking – hiking and the recording interval should probably be different due to the speed of the walk vs the bike.

  17. I’ve had a 60Cx (I had an eTrex Vista and never used the altimeter or compass, so didn’t feel the need to get the 60CSx) for four years, used it all the time, and loved it.

    (I used it for 2k hours and 23k miles (including 12k microlight, 5k motorcycle, 4k walking)

    Unfortunately the power button became unreliable, so I bought a 62s with UK “Discoverer” mapping (the same as OS 1:50000 “Landranger”).

    The batteries are much tighter in the compartment than my 60Cx (and *much* better than the 60C);
    I’m surprised no-one’s mentioned the slow start-up – it takes about 20s to show the first page;
    The mapping’s excellent;
    The compass is useful :-)
    It’s great for geocaching!
    The Profiles facility is excellent – you can have lots of different configurations, and quickly switch between them;
    I don’t notice a difference in ruggedness from the 60;
    I didn’t like the slow page changes that you mentioned, but you can make it behave the same as the 60: menu,menu, setup, page sequence, menu, page ribbon display, off
    The track recording isn’t the same as the 60 – every time you power cycle the 60, it would start a new track (gpx ‘trk’), but the 62 (like my nuvi 3790) usually (not always!) starts a new ‘trkseg’ within the ‘trk’
    I can’t see how to save the tracklog to SD like you could with the 60 :-(

    • Thank you for this contribution. Its nice to read that there is a simple solution for the menu-switching functionality, hidden under the menu context.

      I also noticed that tracks keep being written to the same trackfile, under a different tracksegment.
      However, if the tracklog gets too big, a new tracklog is created, as I found out recently. It is then saved as ‘Auto DD-MMM-YY hh.mm.ss.gpx’ under ‘\Garmin\GPX\Archive\’ (internal device memory). I found this to be scary behavior, because I was afraid I had lost my tracklog.

  18. Hi Jeroen! Big Thanx for such a good review of this Garmin device, 62s. I was intending to buy it, but after this, I won’t. I was thinking for a device to be useful to me in Slovenian Alps and Croatian mountains, I am doing a lot of trekking, finding some new trails etc., and I need my routes recorded, and hopefuly transfer to computer later, so I can know where I was walking, to track my trek.
    Which device you would recommend?
    Thank you
    Cheers,
    Luka

    • Hi Luka,

      Thank you. If trekking is the only type of activity you plan to use the GPS for, both the 60CSx and 62S (with latest firmware!) will be just fine. However, because the 60CSx is now a discontinued product, I would go for the 62(S).

      Cheers,
      Jeroen

  19. Hi Luka,

    I will throw in my 2 cents in here. If you don’t own a GPS and have never owned a hiking/handheld/outdoor GPS and money is not an issue, you should be purchasing either 1 of 2 items.
    1. Garmin 62 series device
    2. Delorme PN-60 series device

    They both have a devoted following and are more than capable of logging a track and handling the basic waypoint, map viewing, etc functions. Plus each has some special features which might interest you (the PN-60 can be purchased with SPOT for instance).

    Most of these threads are just us old buggers who have come through the various versions of GPSs and don’t like this or that about the new or preferred how the old one did it. However the Garmin 60 series is on the way out so if you have no history with it then I can’t recommend that you get one and there are a few other devices to consider.

    Garmin makes the Oregon Series, which has a touch screen. I am always a little leery of the touch screen since I know of people who have busted them. Again, if money is not an issue and you really want touch then they also have a very loyal following.

    If money is an issue then you can move down to the Garmin eTrex and Delorme PN-40 series. Again these will work fine for what you mention above, the only word of caution I would give here is that these both items have patch antenna which gives slightly poorer reception most notable in heavy cover (a heavy tree canopy) or extreme terrain (slit canyons, tall buildings or sometimes odd rock formations) conditions.

    Finally if the only thing you want is the track recording (no navigation) you can go with a display-less device. These have the added advantage of both weight (lighter) and time (batteries last longer). I have a Gisteq PhotoTrackr Lite for these duties when doing long distance hikes, but again it has a patch antenna so if accuracy is a big deal to you it can go a little off from time to time.

    Hope this helps you.

    http://www.gisteq.com/PhotoTrackr/PhotoTrackrDPL700.php

  20. sir, you said that, “After registering my device and entering my device’ serial number (and not the unit ID, common mistake)…”
    actually, i’m having a problem with this. i was trying to register my 62s to my.garmin.com, i had filled in the serial number, but the web said my serial number is invalid.
    could you help me please??

  21. sir, you said that, “After registering my device and entering my device’ serial number (and not the unit ID, common mistake)…”
    actually, i’m having a problem with this. i was trying to register my 62s to my.garmin.com, i had filled in the serial number, but the web said my serial number is invalid.

  22. Good post, on the subject of the temperature sensor – any unit that has a barometer/altimeter has a temperature sensor but it’s not designed to measure temperature for the user. It’s designed to pick up temperature next to the pressure vessel such that temperature as a factor can be used in the barometric calculations. It’s actually unlikely to be accurate for ambient temperature anyway unless explicitly placed so that the chipset is isolated and you don’t get extra heat from that.

  23. MulderX wote: “Most of these threads are just us old buggers who have come through the various versions of GPSs and don’t like this or that about the new or preferred how the old one did it. However the Garmin 60 series is on the way out so if you have no history with it then I can’t recommend that you get one and there are a few other devices to consider.”

    Good point but what I believe they are trying to do is have potential new buyers hold off if they don’t really need to purchase a GPS now and wait for improvements and/or a better product to hit the market. Hopefully, these posts have an impact on sales and would be significant enough that Garmin listens. It’s obvious the group that developed the 60csx are no longer there; possibly retired, replaced (engineering out-sourced) or have moved on to other opportunities. Garmin, unfortunately is now showing symptoms of what has become the new American Dream cycle; the original talent pool and the innvovators no longer steer the company and have sold out to the major shareholder(s) and their accounting team.

  24. Hi, I have used a Etrex Vista Hcx and a 60csx for three years hunting professionally in New Zealand. I work in a rain forest with rugged terrain, deep ravines just about everything a gps should be tested in. I have to say the Vista is more user freindly in buttons as it sits on my pack strap at shoulder level and I can press the cursor without needing to look at the unit, unlike the 60csx.
    I have to say these two units with the correct mapping are the best you can get, they can get soaked by rain and get knocked around and never die.
    If you can still use these two units then you wont need anything else. They are now cheaper and still function perfectly.

  25. I’m just curious, have issues with making a running track log been resolved with this unit? The most recent comments I saw on this front were from some time ago. I have a 60csx which I’m generally happy with, but some of the features of the 62 would be nice as well. One feature I would really be unwilling to give up are the automatic track logs that can be written at down to seconds length intervals and it happily writes out new gpx files for each day it’s on. Is this something that works correctly on the 62 now?

    (Ultimately I’d love it if they would provide an option to include HDOP & VDOP information in these logs as well, but since I already don’t have this unless I use a purpose-built logger, I’d be happy with at least the functionality of the 60.)

  26. My comparison concerns external power in a car. With my 60csx I just connected the car charger, and then I could see the maps and also let the unit automatically log all my journeys (gpx files), all this at zero battery use. Now with my newly bought 62sc I only have a usb connection. OK, I can still use the car battery and a usb charger, but what happens is that the 62sc cannot show any maps, it seem to just act as some sort of storage (usb logo is all I see on the screen). Worse still, it does not log anything! Am I missing some sort of information or do I HAVE to use batteries when using the maps in a car and/or log into gpx?

    • You have to use the special USB cable you get from Garmin (or modify one yourself). The standard usb cable tells it you have connected it to a computer. I have not checked, but believe from other comments I have seen the data pins in the car charger are not connected and that is how it tells the difference. The answer is in using the Garmin car cable then it will work as expected.

  27. I enjoyed your review. I used the 60CSx for 4 years with no problems or complaints. It completely died three days ago so it was an excuse to purchase the 62s. There are a number of things I like much better about the 62s, but unfortunately the things I don’t like are of a more serious nature. A side by side comparison reveals the following. The compass display when standing still will point as much as 10-15 degrees off sometimes (even after calibrating over and over). Much more frequently than the old 2 dimensional compass on the 60. I find the screen much easier to read on the 60 except for the map page. And my number one complaint on the 62 is it updates the needle slower than the 60 (which was my only minor complaint on the 60). When I’m hiking in heavy brush I want my compass needle to move with me as I turn, so I always know I’m headed in the right direction, and I also don’t need the needle jumping around. The fact that the 62 is slower and more unsteady than the 60 just bugs the heck out of me. It has buggy or inefficient software, or the processors (hardware) is cheaper and slower. C ‘mon Garmin, lets make these things better and better, and improve them as we go, not find ways to cheapen them up.

  28. I have just had the opportunity to use my 60CS along side a 62S (specifically for geocaching) that a good friend of mine just purchased for about 1/2 hour and along with that the option to buy his 60CSx. His 62S is new and has the latest firmware. Comparing the two I find his 60CSx to be very close in reception, possibly just a tad better overall. It is better than my 60CS however mine does have some issues, has had them since new – garmin refuses to fix/replace but that is another story all in itself.
    Anyway, back on topic I like the paperless geocache feature on the 62S a lot but have found it difficult to quickly modify a waypoint for the mulit-stage caches as compared to the 60CS. It’s doable, just not very user friendly. I did find the pointer to bounce around more on the 62S as well while in route to a cache although it seemed to settle down as I got closer to GZ. To log the find on the 60CS is a one button push, with the 62S its a couple or more and then some if you mess up and have to go back. Didn’t much care for that! With the 60CS I am able to quickly see a list of caches I’ve found, with the 62S I was not able – in all fairness I didn’t spend a lot of time trying to figure it out although that could be bad also as it shouldn’t be all that hard right? What finally did it for me is the map. It loads fuzzy at first then clears up as if its an interlaced image. I also quickly noticed the streets being big fat lines on the 62S vs the skinny ones on the 60CS a major downfall especially if you zoom out some as it will totally obliterate the screen. I was unable to find any setting that would make them thinner lines either. The screen itself seems to have some sort of polarization look to it which only adds to the difficulty seeing the streets vs the background color in anything other than bright sunlight.
    So here is my basic comparison summary based on a half hour of side by side use:

    62S Pros:
    *Much quicker start up and sat reception. VERY NICE!
    *Paperless caching info is awesome!
    *Very good reception in heavy cover as is the 60CSx.
    *Holds multiple .gpx files in addition to non geocaching waypoints and seems to have no problems quickly overlaying them on the street map screen.

    Cons:
    *Extra steps to set a cache as found.
    *Pointer is somewhat unstable.
    *Upon approach to GZ an annoying “arriving at destination” message appears upon arrival which wipes out the pointer until you press the enter button to acknowledge and clear it out. Why not keep the pointer visible?
    *Being able to retrieve the list of found caches cumbersome which makes it a real pain to log them later. ANNOYING…
    *The street map screen absolutely sucks for viewing especially while driving to the next destination. MAJOR DOWNFALL!
    *Modifying geocache waypoints is not user friendly.
    *Overall screen reflectivity is considerably less than the 60CS series making it harder to view in lower light unless backlighting is enabled. (runs down the batteries quicker)
    *Changing the symbol on the 60CS series at the time of uploading to the unit is easy – I could not find a way to do it with the 62S. I prefer my caches to be a small dot rather than a big box that covers up all the streets making them hard to see as I drive down the road.

    Having only a short half hour to compare, the list of cons has grown quite a bit as compared to the pros thus making my decision pretty easy to make at this point without having to research any further things such as mapsourse compatibility or if its tied directly to a software purchase or so the rumor goes. I can’t confirm that as I didn’t buy the unit, just borrowed it.

    So I am fortunate to be able to pick up his older 60CSx which I am doing tomorrow. It’s sad that Garmin couldn’t have just added the paperless cache feature to the 60CX series units as that alone would have made for a most awesome unit, instead I think they have backslid by adding it to a unit that is not as user friendly and has some serious map / display issues.

    I’ll gladly sacrifice the paperless cache for the added safety while driving due to being able to actually see the screen quickly. Having trouble looking at it made me feel like I was trying to text while driving which as we all know is not a good thing at all!
    Without the paperless cache info I may have to spend a little more time searching but isn’t that part of the fun anyway? :)
    -Ken

  29. Have the 60CS (have had it for a handful of years-purhased before the 60 CSX was available). However time to upgrade…used a friend’s 60CSX this weekend….amazing how quickly his had cords…I was still waiting for five minutes…and no issues caching under heavy tree coverage…which my old model is just about useless under due to huge signal bounce issues. Tired of the aggrevation…so ready to upgrade. After reading through comments…it seems to be a no brainer…the 60CSX is the way to go…(I have an iphone so don’t need the ability to read descriptions about caches or log them via my GPS). Thanks for helping me confirm my decision. I only wish Garmin would sell the unit with street maps onboard…and not require folks to spend $$$ to get the SD card with the secondary roads on it!

  30. Hi there. Thanks for a great review. Quick question as I decide on the 60/62 route. Does the 62 have USB connexion only? Would this be a problem for using the unit on a dirt bike where the older 60 series had a separate weather proof power socket? Many thanks.

    • Correct, the 62 series (as well as the new eTrex, Dakota, Oregon all have USB external power only. Not flash for salty / dusty conditions. Only the 78 series retains the practical 4-pin round Garmin power/series data socket.

      Regarding slow scrolling of any long list, Page Up and Page Down are available via the zoom buttons.

  31. Unfortunately I bought the 62 before reading this information. I still have and use the 60CSX. I will sell 62. I was disappointed with the product does not work that functions as the 60CSX.

  32. Bought a 2nd hand unit for work purposes and no complaints about the 60 Csx. Have now bought 2 62 s’s for work and will compare. Jungle in GABON.

  33. Thanking you all for your comments. I, too was going to upgrade to a 62s, but now will put it on hold till Garmin improves some of these issues.

  34. Basecamp does show heart rate in a very good graph. open up a track then click on graph. Voila!

  35. The main reason to consider to replace my GPSmap 60Cx for the GPSmap 62(s) is that the screen refresh, during biking a track or route, is much faster on the 62. I have read and seen (youtube) that in many reviews, but after reading the contributions I reconsider my intention to purchase the GPSmap 62..

  36. For the past several weeks I’ve contemplated buying a 62 series until I ran into this forum, no longer an option for now. Our new young pup chewed off the antenna cover on my 60csx thus creating a need for a GPS upgrade. I can’t understand why Garmin hasn’t made the NESSESSARY upgrades to the 62 series with all these concerns at their fingertips. Now what…

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  38. Have compared the 62 with the 60 and other devices. The 62 always over estimates distance covered by about 4-5%.

  39. Great comments thanks. Re- track logs, nobody has mentioned any difficulties with resetting. For me there is always carry-over of a few points from the previous track which I then annoyingly have to remove manually within Basecamp (or suffer long lines on the map apparently joining tracks together). Anyone else find this – and have a solution to avoid it happening? (I own a 62S; previously owned a 60-series unit. The former does much better at retaining GPS signal under cover / in gorges but I too am struggling a bit with tracks, which I use to log all my walking and cycling activity.)

    I have not yet lost or truncated a track log. is this problem only relevant when cycling long distances?

    Another annoyance with the 62S is that I get no audible (or other) warning at the moment battery power becomes unusably low – and battery power level is not immediately visible – you have to press the on/off switch to see it. I’m sure the 60 gave a beep that reminded me to swap batteries.

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